Dec. 5, 2021
Raising $200k through a Twitter post. By Alex Simon with Elude
Alex Simon, CEO Co-Founder of Elude in this episode talks about the new strategies that modern founders can employ while fundraising for their startups. We also spoke about some key things that founders should have on hand before starting to raise and about other things that I forgot to write down.
Alex' LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexnsimon/
Elude website: https://elude.co/
Episode with the founder of DocSend: https://www.fundraisingradio.com/Russ-Heddleston/
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Transcript
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They're releasing to fundraising
video a podcast about
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fundraising for early-stage
startups, the major rule that we
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follow here is no bullshit on
this podcast.
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No music to relax.
You know, advertisements of our
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sponsors.
We only talk about fundraising
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here and nothing else.
So let's jump into the episode.
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And today's guest speaker we
have I'll excitement, co-founder
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and CEO a dilute.
And in this episode we'll talk
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about Free fundraising checklist
that everyone must have or it is
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recommended to have.
It also talked about how Alex
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raised nearly 200,000 dollars
through a Twitter post.
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How why?
And when does it actually work.
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So Alex Let's Get Up by you
giving us some background on
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yourself and on alert short.
So I really appreciate you
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having me on really looking
forward to diving deeper.
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So my background actually
before, starting a lude was over
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in investment banking on Wall
Street.
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So I spent about five years
there and I'd say ruling you
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know corporate world really kind
of kicked off and started my own
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company in the travel space.
Given my passion for just
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getting out and exploring the
world.
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And so really at the core elude
is budget based travel, we allow
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users to search based only on
their budget.
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So for instance, you tell us,
hey, I got a thousand dollars.
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And next weekend, we showcase
basically everywhere in the
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world where you could afford to
get to and that's flight and
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hotel combination.
The yeah, that's a little bit
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about myself and my background
and really, Happy to be here.
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Hello Lee.
This would indefinitely while
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we're having this conversation.
I'm definitely going to check
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out alludes to see what my
budget can afford me.
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I'm pretty sure it's gonna for
me to remain in my apartment,
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but we'll see.
We'll see.
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All right, so let's talk about
your recent fundraising.
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You could often only about two
months ago and you're nearly
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done closing.
Its is that about right?
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Yep.
That's correct.
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So, we're very fortunate to have
really great partner.
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Both from the investment side,
as well as the advisors that
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kind of help streamline a lot of
the process that to be quite
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blunt in the early days would
have cost, you know, months of
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work and kind of deep deep
connections.
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But very, very, very happy.
So, that was my major question
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there.
How did you manage to raise the
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money so quickly?
Their own fundraising process is
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anywhere between 4 to 12 months.
And yeah, I've seen fundraisings
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fun reading processes that were
about one month long but still
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you are are on the faster side
of it.
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So can you tell us a little more
about how you manage to make it
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so fast?
You already mentioned that, you
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know, a lot of Partners and
advisors can you talk a little
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bit more on that?
What exactly did they do?
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Did you click create a list of
investors that you really want
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to have on your cap table and
just reached out to your
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advisors and partners to see if
they can make introductions or
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how exactly did that work out?
Yeah, so great question.
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So it's a combination of all of
that I'll start off by saying we
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actually run a process.
Single month where we send out a
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newsletter to all of our current
existing investors as well as
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our advisors and the newsletter
really just goes anything from
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the product updates to
fundraising updates to kind of
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everything in between things
that might we that we might need
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help with and things along those
along.
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Those lines.
And typically, with our
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fundraising process, we use that
newsletter as kind of a, you
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know, a reach out to say, Hey,
you know, here's the top five
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funds that we're looking to
reach.
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Out to, if you have interests
or, you know, if you have
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connections to those to those
interested parties, you know, we
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would love an introduction and
in addition to, you know, just
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that that newsletter which is
definitely been very helpful for
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us.
We also run a process where we
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have basically a running list of
an Excel document with top
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funds, bulb in the travel space
to then also just in the
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consumer space that were
interested in and an interested
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in getting connected with.
And so I'm a huge believer.
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Weaver that you shouldn't just
be like turning on fundraise and
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just trying to kind of go out
and kick off a process.
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It really needs to be a
collaborative process both with
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your current investors.
And then also again kind of the
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new ones and starting to make
those introductions earlier
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rather than trying to kind of
put a process of, you know, two
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weeks or five months in place.
And so that's kind of a little
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bit of the foundational work
that we needed to do in order to
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get get us to this point.
Lovely.
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So, before we move any further,
actually, one more follow-up
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question.
On this, this is an ongoing
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debate for for this podcast that
our early listeners have been
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listening for years.
But that is how frequently
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you're supposed to reach out to
your existing investors and your
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overall Network that supports
you most investors or most
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Founders say that the stick to
and quarterly or even semiannual
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why did you choose a month
monthly updates?
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That is a lot.
That requires a lot of time.
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Why did you decide that it's
worth the time investment?
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Yes.
A great question.
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I think what we're realizing
especially, as kind of a precede
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seed, stage startup, is that,
you know, we're constantly
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changing our product and really
our team, every single month,
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right?
So there's so much movement and
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and things that are happening
within that current month, where
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that monthly update to
investors, there is some
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substantial value that that
actually happens on that monthly
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basis.
Now it's kind of funny And
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ironic because you're catching
Us in this kind of transitional
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period as well where I do think
that will start to move into
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more or less a quarterly update
especially when it comes to kind
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of our top-tier investors.
And I say top-tier meaning,
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people who have the most skin in
the game.
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What we what we realized very
early on is that if we were to
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continue having you know chats
with every single one of our
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investors on a monthly basis.
It would just be a time suck
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both for myself and my
co-founder and so that was Kind
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of the main reason for us to
migrate into a newsletter where
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we can address basically our
audience at kind of one you know
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at one particular point and then
go back to them with any
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specific asks and you know that
could be anything from new
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employees to hey test out this
new feature give us some
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feedback here but yeah I think
as we start to mature in our
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business I think it's definitely
moving more towards a quarterly
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update rather than a monthly
update.
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Nice.
And yeah, glad to hear that
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because I do think that monthly
is a little bit too frequent
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but, you know, whatever works
for you.
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It seems like as been working so
far so maybe that's the way to
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go.
So now let's talk about another
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debates.
That was very much old and has
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been going on here for ages
which is Twitter and raising
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money through Twitter.
On our print recall that you
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mentioned that you raised nearly
200,000 dollars through just one
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post on Twitter.
Can you tell us a little more
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about that story?
It just legitimately one post or
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was it a series of posts?
Or was it, you know, and I'm
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going work on Twitter for years
where you were building your
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audience where you were making
sure that the right people are
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following you and making sure
that they were actually reading
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what you're posting.
So how did that happen?
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So, yeah, let me unpack this
story a little bit more in
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depth.
So basically, I am not saying
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that I am any, but, you know, by
any means somebody of stature on
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Twitter, I think I have a few
hundred followers.
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So again, it It was definitely
definitely was not in the
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context of me.
Trying to build the right
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rapport with you know the right
investors through Twitter over
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time, it was much more kind of
like a fluke accident that kind
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of, that kind of happened.
And so there's a few investors
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that I actually reach out to on
a more recurring basis through
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Twitter, whether it's, you know,
going into their DMS and just
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saying, hey this is, you know
what I mean?
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This is what I'm working on.
In terms of allude in hopes of
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their response, in this
particular scenario, there was
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one investor That tweeted, you
know, hey, shoot, across your
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URL and kind of like a quick
one, you know, one sentence
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pitch and he'll comment on on,
you know, those posts to see if
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there's anybody that would be of
interest in his Network to make
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that interconnection in that
pitch, I basically said that
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we're closing our fundraise.
We have 200k left.
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And that this is kind of what we
are.
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What we're doing with our link
directly to our website and
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literally within the matter.
Of about 48 hours, we had that
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200k closed within Twitter.
And these were people reaching
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out that I basically never met
before hand, that either run
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funds or are Angel Investors and
what's quite interesting about
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this approach is that it's very
similar to an angel list.
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I guess you can call it kind of
Syndicate, right?
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Where you know, somebody goes on
they create you know a you know,
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a Syndicate for that business
and then reach out to, you know,
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20 to 100 plus investors.
This is very similar where I
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basically had submitted, you
know, our business.
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And I believe I had actually
linked our investor deck as well
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in that in that Twitter post.
And within again that first 24
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to 48 hours, we just saw a huge
Spike on docks and people
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checking out our deck and
interested in getting involved.
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The last thing I'll say is, we
did most of the hard work up
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until that point.
So, I'm not saying that this is
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something that will work for
every every entrepreneur we
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closed, you know, a little over
1.5 million beforehand and we
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were closing in that kind of the
last little bit, a little bit of
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the fund raised prior to doing
that.
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And so we had some pretty Heavy
Hitters, both advisers and
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investors, that I think helped
helped some of those Angel
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Investors make that leap but
death you know all in all the
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Twitter response was incredible
for us and really got really got
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us to be able to close quickly.
Great that is Really cool more
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and more stories about how
people raise money on Twitter.
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I tried to wear myself multiple
times.
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Just yeah, it did not work.
Out is not for everyone.
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Yeah.
Not yet.
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Not yet.
Not yet.
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We'll see.
We'll see how it goes on in the
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future.
Um but yeah let's let's talk
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about the reason why you're on
this podcast.
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The reason why you're here today
is because when my business
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developer mentioned the
investors that you raise money
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from I'm like alright I know
pretty much everyone in this
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round that sounds really
interesting.
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That is very rare, it does not
happen that frequently.
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Therefore it is an interesting
round.
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So how do you manage to raise
money from so many well-known
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investors specifically in Los
Angeles?
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Yes.
A great question.
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I think again I'm going to go
right back to something that one
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of our early advisors had
suggested we do and I think this
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is actually really good homework
for any entrepreneur out there
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that is looking to either go and
build their business or just
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start.
And it's create kind of a
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one-pager of The high-end
advisors that you would love to
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be a part and or associated with
your company because it
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necessarily need to be specific
names.
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At first, it could just be like,
you know, somebody from X
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company, X being, maybe Snapchat
or Instagram, or if you're a
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consumer Focus, again, those
that's in our case.
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That's where my mind goes
through.
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But our advisors basically our
top here individuals from these
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markets, right?
So we have the CMO of It's or
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the ex CMO of Instagram.
We have one of the cofounders of
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Priceline.
If you're familiar with
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Skyscanner, we have one of those
co-founders as well as part of
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our advisor group.
And I would really urge a lot of
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early in early entrepreneurs to
build out their advisor network
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with individuals, that can
really Propel their business.
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And I say that because we really
we the reason that we have some
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of the top-tier investors based
here in LA Specifically, you
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know, around La ecosystem is
because of those top-tier
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advisors that were able to get
us from.
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Really just the idea concept of
what we were doing to actual
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execution, and really a plan for
go to market.
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So, happy to unpack that, but
largely, I give a lot of our
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success of fundraising, to the
advisors themselves actually
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overwrite.
That is their true.
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That is one of the major
value-adds of advisors will get,
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not one of them.
Not going to say that.
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I'm taking those words back.
Okay, but it is one of the value
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as of advisors, and let's, let's
talk about visors a little bit,
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advisors is yet another subject
that is discussed, very
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frequently on this podcast.
So let's touch on say it again.
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You've said that, you know, we
have a lot of notable advisors,
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which is lovely, but the problem
with notable advisors is,
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they're very hard to get and
sometimes they are expensive as
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hell.
So how do you compensate them if
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you don't mind sharing, this
information.
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Are you going through just
giving out the stock best thing
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that's For certain amount of
time, giving them style, based
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on two actions or how do you
structure that?
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Yeah, it's a combination of
both, you know, I'd be more than
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happy to share just on this
podcast as well, kind of a
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context because I too, as a
fellow entrepreneur was, you
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know, Googling saying, you know,
what's the proper compensation
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to in investor or sorry?
An advisor in the early stage
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and what I like to say is that
anywhere between kind of a few
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percentage points, you know,
let's say 0 to 2 or, you know,
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in some cases facts, maybe,
Three percent in those very
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early days is not something
that's going to make or break
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your business.
The vesting cycle is actually
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what was probably going to be.
My next point is that you want
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to be able to actually lock in
that advisor not for the first
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three months, which will
probably get a lot of value out
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of but, you know, over the
course of two years.
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urge a lot of early
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entrepreneurs to go into that
route.
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Now, in our particular case, I
think we were in somewhere in
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between where, you know, we're
not giving up more than a Age /
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advisor, but it was much more in
the lines of what could they
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help us from the short-term and
long-term goals.
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And so that was a collaborative,
you know, situation you you're
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going to find yourself as an
entrepreneur reaching out to
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these advisors.
It's not going to be a
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one-and-done.
Hey, okay, great.
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You're interested in my
business.
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Great now, your advisor.
This is something that you're
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going to need to build over time
in terms of relationship and
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that will feel it should feel
mind you.
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It should feel collaborative
where you're actually coming up
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with those.
Medium and long-term goals with
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that advisor, for them to kind
of action on.
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And it could be everything from,
you know them, reaching out to
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their Network to helping make
introductions to strategizing
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and whiteboarding, right?
Like it could be all of the
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above but my my biggest
suggestion is in the early days
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of when you're trying to kind of
formulate who those who that
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advisor group is that you're
very deliberate about why.
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And what they could actually
help you with getting to that
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next phase.
True.
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So you mentioned launcher,
multiple times, and also
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mentioned that you locking the
advisor for not just the
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upcoming three months.
But for two years that is the
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struggle that I've seen
happening a lodge or with a lot
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of Founders, were they lock in
the advisor, they worked in the
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beginning for a couple months
and then they just drop off.
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They just do not show up, they
do not care.
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And what happens then what, how
do you how what's your advice on
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keeping the advisor?
Active basically, Great
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question.
So this is another reason that
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we did migrate towards a monthly
newsletter and so we have
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specific asks for advisors that
go out in that newsletter.
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And so it may in some cases, the
reason I bring that up and set
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in some months we may not
actually go and meet with every
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one of our advisors, but but I
know that they're still learning
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or reading our newsletter and
can still provide value.
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Even if that doesn't mean that
we've had a strategy session or
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you know, had walked through
some scenarios.
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Oreos with them.
And so that's where I'd say that
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monthly newsletter really
actually does help our cause and
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kind of push the needle even if
there isn't much to be said
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throughout that month so I'll
give you the example.
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In our case we launched about
two months ago and within that
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month there was nothing
happening from an advisor
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standpoint, right?
We were heads down focused
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building and kind of launching
the product.
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Our advisors knew that because
we had sent out our newsletter
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and some of them actually had
asked what could they could be.
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Doing both on their socials, as
well as kind of promoting within
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their own network, once we
actually got there.
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And so keeping kind of an active
pulse, that's another benefit of
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having kind of a monthly
newsletter, rather than a
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three-month newsletter Right.
Yeah, that is very true and that
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is definitely good point towards
making more of those emails.
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Perfect.
Alright, now that we've covered
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all of that.
One more question about the
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fundraising that you just had
and that is the fact that is
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weird times.
It is not covid, but it is not
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not covid.
So it's like a weird mix of
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things.
So, in this semi covid type of
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times, how do you approach
meeting with Esters or
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communicating with investors.
Did you actually meet any of the
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investors that you raise money
from in person or did you fully
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see over Zoom even though their
most of them are in Los Angeles?
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So I'd say, I'll start with the
former questions or the latter
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question.
Sorry.
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The former question, when it,
when it comes to our current
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advisors, sorry, are current
investors that had just
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participated majority of them.
We've actually met in person.
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I'd say, I'd say 70%.
We met in person and 30%, we
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Either never met or in some
cases, they're either working
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remote or in different places
outside of the US that we just
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didn't actually reach out or
just haven't met yet.
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What I will say though and
specifically when it when it
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comes to fundraising during
covid, I think the biggest piece
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of advice that I wished that I
gave myself was that you
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basically have you you do need
to create boundaries and
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deadlines and I think it becomes
even more difficult to create.
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Lines in the midst of covid.
Regardless of if you're meeting
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up with individuals because
there's so much downtime that
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actually happens now that, you
know, you need to be pushing
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towards a deadline to get your
your fundraise closed, but you
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also don't need to.
You also can't give, you know, a
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deadline that's almost
unrealistic.
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And I've seen a lot of
entrepreneurs struggle with this
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idea, right?
They'll have a meeting on
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Monday.
It went really great and they're
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hoping to close by Friday.
I think Almost any successful
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entrepreneur that has been
through the process of
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fundraising knows that it's not
going to happen within that
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short amount of time.
And so you need to create those
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those expectations for yourself
and for your team, right?
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So if you're coming down to the
last two months, or three months
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of Runway, you should have
probably already had
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conversations with current
existing investors or new
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investors to kind of, you know,
get it, get up.
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Get basically, what's to come
and forward-looking or at least
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the plan there.
And so my biggest suggestion for
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those early stage entrepreneurs,
like myself is really create
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realistic, expectations, and try
to meet that right?
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Try to try to push investors
even if it is through Zoom or
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through email to commit whether
that's a yes or a no you're able
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to kind of move the needle a
little bit easier with deadlines
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hundred percent.
That is very true and of course
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deep inside every single sound
you're going to me with investor
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hopes that they will get a check
right there just from a A book.
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Everyone does that everyone
hopes for it but yeah, setting
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up more realistic goals,
definitely helps especially in
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long, run with your mental
health.
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So yeah definitely think of that
and definitely pushed investors
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to make the final decision
because the major thing that all
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investors do is being vague.
That's what they do.
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That's that's just that's,
that's the most common trait
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told investors have, but most
investors are, like, most
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investors have.
Well, the one thing I also So
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just wanted to touch on there is
a bird really, really press your
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own network for warm
introductions.
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You probably see this or at
least your audience will see
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this on every blog post, right?
It's like, how can you get a
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warm introduction to the top BC?
And the truth is those warm
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introductions will save you
headaches because you're you're
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not just trying to kind of get
into this Venture firm and kind
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of, you know, sell your company
or, you know, promote your
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company with warm introduction.
You're going to be able to jump
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on, you know, a call with a
managing partner within the next
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two or three days, right?
Again, if timing persists.
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But the idea is that you should
really leverage your own
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existing Network to try to get
you introduced to the network
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that you're trying to get
though.
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Right?
That is true and that works
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really well especially on early
stages studies for sure.
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So before we move on to the key
kind of concept of today's
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episode which is the fundraising
checklist, let's talk about
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leveraging that Network.
You've mentioned that you were
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working in the investment
banking for where six years, how
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do you leverage that network?
Was it at all helpful or because
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those people are Investment
Banking, which is not really
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related to the startup world or
Or to the traveling.
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Were they helpful at all or not?
Really.
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So that I will say they were
there's two there's two trains
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of thought here.
One is that they were definitely
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helpful my past experience was
definitely helpful from the
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understanding the financial
terms and what it really meant
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to go out and fundraise.
I think a lot of whether it's
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solo entrepreneurs or
entrepreneurs in general that
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don't come from the existing
background of investment
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banking, you know, Find
themselves Googling and figuring
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out what, you know, what a safer
convertible note is and what
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that, you know, what a debt
instrument is and things like
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that.
That a lot of the foundational
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work that I already had coming
from that experience worked in
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my benefit.
The second is the network,
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right?
And so, I think, early on what
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we realized is that we needed to
leverage our own existing
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Network to really build and
scale the company, our first
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investor was a former employee
of mine and so what?
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Yeah, well and a lot that Gave
us the, you know, the Charisma
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or you know kind of insert word,
right?
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To kind of go out and do our
dreams.
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When when I think you know we
didn't have friends and family
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to be able to go out and kind of
you know, ask if they can give
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us 25,000 or 50,000 dollar
checks that that was not the
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network that I was coming from.
I did have the network of, you
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know, past employees of these
things that could write us at 10
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or 15 thousand dollar check that
you know, was a huge Catalyst at
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that particular point.
And really was a game changer
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for us to go out and kind of
scale the company in the early
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days.
Nice, and you had that
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definitely helps therefore I
frequently recommend Founders
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who are very early on, just out
of college.
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I frequently give them the
advice of, you know, go for a 9
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to 5 job.
It can help only make your life
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easier down the road, just for
that reason.
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All right, now that we covered
that, let's go and talk about
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the fundraising checklist or pre
fundraising checklist.
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So would do What does a Founder
has to have before?
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Starting to fundraise?
Yeah.
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So there's a lot to unpack here.
I'd say there's kind of four
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main items that I wanted to kind
of touch on especially when it
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comes to the process of
fundraising.
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The first one is materials which
I can definitely jump into in
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terms of what you should
probably have in terms of, you
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know, about to fundraise or, you
know, sending out in terms of
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your actually fundraising the
second, which is email
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templates, which I actually
strongly Urge a lot of early
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early Founders to do, it's a
great exercise.
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Plus it allows them to kind of
create this back-and-forth
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conversation with an investor
prior to end actually having
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those conversations, the third,
which is the actual Outreach.
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So right, this is generating a
list of investors and you know
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kind of ranking them whether
it's top 10 or top 15 and then
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the fourth which is the process
which is kind of everything in
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between, right?
It's it's, you know, basically
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taking the materials taking, the
email templates creating kind of
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that Outreach strategy and then
actually implementing kind of a
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process to it.
But that fourth piece is
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actually the biggest piece
because many Founders you know
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can go out and create a pitch
deck in the materials and come
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up with the email templates and
you know kind of list out the
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different investment groups that
they're looking for but when it
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actually comes to doing the
process and reaching out to
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investors and you know, Having
those conversations and having
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the right right data points to
be able to describe, that's
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where a lot of Founders, kind of
fall flat is that they don't
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have that realistic timeline and
they don't, you know, come up
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with those expectations as
needed.
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And so, I'm happy to kind of
break down, you know, each one
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of them if you'd like, or go a
little bit more into the details
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of one or two of them, if that's
what you think is, it might be
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bester or interested in.
At this point I will do
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self-promotional plug-in because
we're doing the course on
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exactly that creating the
investor at least drafting those
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emails reaching out to using the
particular resources to find the
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emails of investors out of
mating this stuff and so on and
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so forth.
So my I have to put it there
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because I loved it it was just a
perfect situation.
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It was not planned people at
just occurred naturally.
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So go check out those groups in
this episode.
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I'll include our Lending.
A page there.
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So you can take a look at it.
The course is not available yet,
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but you can make a, the pre-sale
is available.
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So check it out.
But Alex with you, let's go and
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talk a little bit about creating
the investor at least.
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I think that's one of the most
important things to do there.
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There's one of the things that
Founders can start doing
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literally any time in their
career or any time in the
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creation of the company.
So let's talk about that.
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Tell us whatever you think is
the most important in the
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Investor at least creation
process.
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Perfect.
Yeah, so I'd say there's kind of
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two rules of thumb here.
One is that you should have at
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least a list of, you know, top
10 or top 15 funds or angels
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that you're really interested in
and then you should also have
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anywhere between 30 to 100 other
additional individuals.
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Whether it's Angels or funds
that you're interested in
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connecting with we touched on
this earlier throughout the
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podcast.
But I really think that having
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deliberate and tailed
descriptions of kind of who and
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why you're reaching out to them
as well as warm introductions.
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That that's really where you're
going to find.
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Probably the most early
successes coming up with that
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list.
And then kind of reaching out to
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your own existing Network and
saying, hey, you know, here's
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the top 15, here's the top 20.
Does anybody have no connections
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to these funds?
And then the second thing that
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I'll actually mention is more on
the technical items.
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So you should be able to reach
out specifically.
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And have tactical asks for those
let's say top 15 or top 30 and
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what I mean by tactical asks is
you should really, you shouldn't
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have you know a general email
template that you just send in
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hopes of them responding, you
know for example if it's a fun
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that's invested into another
consumer-focused app.
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Now I'm just, you know, I'm just
creating examples here for the
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time being you should have, you
know, detailed as to say, Hey,
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you know, I saw that you
invested in XY & Z come.
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Many were very similar or very
different because of X Y or Z.
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And you know, here's why I
wanted to kind of chat with you
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and give them kind of like a one
or two sentence around why you
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should exist and why you should
really be able to take that
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call.
It shouldn't just be like a hey,
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let me sell you my company right
off the bat and hopefully you
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responding.
I think a lot of early stage,
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Founders go directly to the ask
and not so much the why but
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really, really start with that
lie.
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And Come up with those tactical,
asks for those top 15 or 30
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investors, the last thing I'll
mention is where do you find
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this top 15 or top 30, you know,
invest investors or funds.
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The first thing that I would
strongly urge Founders to do is
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go on Google and type in their
favorite company and and say
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like, you know, Uber crunchbase
and then kind of back into the
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different funds that might have
invested in them prior.
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Now, mind you you're probably
early for a lot of these.
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Funds, you can start to get a
better understanding of what,
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you know what, and who gets
funded by where, right?
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And again, crunchbase is a
really great example for this.
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I'm sure you have a handful of
other kind of web sites or sites
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that you can kind of check out
to find those, you know, those
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early stage funds that that
really are interested in
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funding. 100%, I will agree with
you.
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I don't think people need to
reinvent the wheel and just
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stick to crunchbase.
It is objectively.
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The best platform out there for
this kind of stuff, especially
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if you're early on and not
really sure what kind of
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investors you're looking for.
Growing base is definitely the
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way to go pull us.
You can be easily get unlimited
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amount of free trials there.
So it is basically free.
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So do that, definitely great
advice here.
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On this note, we are going to
move to the last question of
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today's episode, which is a call
to action.
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So Alex, What do you want to
listen to do?
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As soon as the episode is over.
So there's two.
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There's two quick asks, one I
think from every Founders point
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of view, I'm not by any means
self promoting this.
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You should look into doc.
Send for, you know, sending your
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pitch deck, sending video links,
basically anything that you send
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to investors.
This is one of the biggest
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things that has helped our
fundraise in the past.
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The reason is, is you're able to
understand who's actually
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clicking into your, your Or
pitch decks, and kind of viewing
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at the at in, in real time.
And so, my strong asked to
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early-stage entrepreneurs is, if
you don't have doc cents, you
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know, spend the $10 a month, or
whatever it may be, and really
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get your pitch deck in there.
So that you're, you're, you're
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aware of who's checking out your
deck and you're able to press
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and get investors interest.
The second is more of like a
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selfless or selfish plugins, if
if you're ever interested in
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traveling, you know, Definitely
check us out or lewd dot C 0.
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So e, l UD e, Co and really
again the premises, you don't
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really know where you're going
to be going, your kind of
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spontaneously traveling.
But you know what, you're, you
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know, looking to spend.
That's that's kind of our plug
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there is, you know, being able
to search based off a budgeted
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see different places that you're
able to travel.
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So that's kind of my selfless,
my selfish plug but, you know,
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from that from the entrepreneur
and founder side, definitely
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check out doc said I represent
nearly selfless and yeah, for
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people who are actually
interested in Dogs ends, I just
581
00:31:17,900 --> 00:31:20,800
interviewed the founder of dogs.
And, and if you're curious to
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hear how they came up with a
product that became so essential
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to this dark world and
specifically to the fundraising
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process of it.
They came up with this Mansion
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ten dollar per month and how
they were doing, all this
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00:31:32,500 --> 00:31:34,800
absolutely epic stuff and how
they eventually got to
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acquisition with Dropbox, I'll
include the link to that episode
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in the description of this
episode.
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00:31:40,100 --> 00:31:43,500
So, check it out.
It out and just wrap it up in
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the description, you're going to
find Alex's LinkedIn.
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There's going to be a ludes,
there's going to be a link to
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the episode with the founder of
Dachshunds and there's gonna be
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a link to the course that
fundraising radio team is
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developing.
So if you're reaching out to
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people, I mean, whatever you're
doing pretty much.
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You absolutely have to take a
look at the description of the
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episode and as usually have a
good day.
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They're releasing to fundraising
video a podcast about
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fundraising for early-stage
startups, the major rule that we
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follow here is no bullshit on
this podcast.
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No music to relax.
You know, advertisements of our
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sponsors.
We only talk about fundraising
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here and nothing else.
So let's jump into the episode.
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And today's guest speaker we
have I'll excitement, co-founder
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and CEO a dilute.
And in this episode we'll talk
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about Free fundraising checklist
that everyone must have or it is
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recommended to have.
It also talked about how Alex
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raised nearly 200,000 dollars
through a Twitter post.
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How why?
And when does it actually work.
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So Alex Let's Get Up by you
giving us some background on
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yourself and on alert short.
So I really appreciate you
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having me on really looking
forward to diving deeper.
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So my background actually
before, starting a lude was over
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in investment banking on Wall
Street.
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So I spent about five years
there and I'd say ruling you
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know corporate world really kind
of kicked off and started my own
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company in the travel space.
Given my passion for just
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getting out and exploring the
world.
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And so really at the core elude
is budget based travel, we allow
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users to search based only on
their budget.
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So for instance, you tell us,
hey, I got a thousand dollars.
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And next weekend, we showcase
basically everywhere in the
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world where you could afford to
get to and that's flight and
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hotel combination.
The yeah, that's a little bit
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about myself and my background
and really, Happy to be here.
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Hello Lee.
This would indefinitely while
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we're having this conversation.
I'm definitely going to check
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out alludes to see what my
budget can afford me.
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I'm pretty sure it's gonna for
me to remain in my apartment,
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but we'll see.
We'll see.
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All right, so let's talk about
your recent fundraising.
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You could often only about two
months ago and you're nearly
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done closing.
Its is that about right?
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Yep.
That's correct.
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So, we're very fortunate to have
really great partner.
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Both from the investment side,
as well as the advisors that
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kind of help streamline a lot of
the process that to be quite
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blunt in the early days would
have cost, you know, months of
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work and kind of deep deep
connections.
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But very, very, very happy.
So, that was my major question
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there.
How did you manage to raise the
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money so quickly?
Their own fundraising process is
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anywhere between 4 to 12 months.
And yeah, I've seen fundraisings
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fun reading processes that were
about one month long but still
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you are are on the faster side
of it.
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So can you tell us a little more
about how you manage to make it
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so fast?
You already mentioned that, you
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know, a lot of Partners and
advisors can you talk a little
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bit more on that?
What exactly did they do?
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Did you click create a list of
investors that you really want
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to have on your cap table and
just reached out to your
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advisors and partners to see if
they can make introductions or
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how exactly did that work out?
Yeah, so great question.
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So it's a combination of all of
that I'll start off by saying we
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actually run a process.
Single month where we send out a
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newsletter to all of our current
existing investors as well as
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our advisors and the newsletter
really just goes anything from
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the product updates to
fundraising updates to kind of
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everything in between things
that might we that we might need
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help with and things along those
along.
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Those lines.
And typically, with our
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fundraising process, we use that
newsletter as kind of a, you
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know, a reach out to say, Hey,
you know, here's the top five
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funds that we're looking to
reach.
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Out to, if you have interests
or, you know, if you have
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connections to those to those
interested parties, you know, we
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would love an introduction and
in addition to, you know, just
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that that newsletter which is
definitely been very helpful for
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us.
We also run a process where we
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have basically a running list of
an Excel document with top
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funds, bulb in the travel space
to then also just in the
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consumer space that were
interested in and an interested
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in getting connected with.
And so I'm a huge believer.
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Weaver that you shouldn't just
be like turning on fundraise and
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just trying to kind of go out
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collaborative process both with
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new ones and starting to make
those introductions earlier
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rather than trying to kind of
put a process of, you know, two
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weeks or five months in place.
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bit of the foundational work
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get get us to this point.
Lovely.
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So, before we move any further,
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On this, this is an ongoing
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debate for for this podcast that
our early listeners have been
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listening for years.
But that is how frequently
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you're supposed to reach out to
your existing investors and your
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overall Network that supports
you most investors or most
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Founders say that the stick to
and quarterly or even semiannual
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why did you choose a month
monthly updates?
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That is a lot.
That requires a lot of time.
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Why did you decide that it's
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A great question.
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seed, stage startup, is that,
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changing our product and really
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right?
So there's so much movement and
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and things that are happening
within that current month, where
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that monthly update to
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substantial value that that
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basis.
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ironic because you're catching
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period as well where I do think
that will start to move into
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more or less a quarterly update
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of our top-tier investors.
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people who have the most skin in
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What we what we realized very
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continue having you know chats
with every single one of our
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investors on a monthly basis.
It would just be a time suck
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both for myself and my
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of the main reason for us to
migrate into a newsletter where
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we can address basically our
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at one particular point and then
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specific asks and you know that
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employees to hey test out this
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feedback here but yeah I think
as we start to mature in our
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business I think it's definitely
moving more towards a quarterly
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update rather than a monthly
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Nice.
And yeah, glad to hear that
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because I do think that monthly
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but, you know, whatever works
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It seems like as been working so
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go.
So now let's talk about another
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debates.
That was very much old and has
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been going on here for ages
which is Twitter and raising
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money through Twitter.
On our print recall that you
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mentioned that you raised nearly
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post on Twitter.
Can you tell us a little more
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about that story?
It just legitimately one post or
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was it a series of posts?
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going work on Twitter for years
where you were building your
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audience where you were making
sure that the right people are
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following you and making sure
that they were actually reading
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what you're posting.
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depth.
So basically, I am not saying
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that I am any, but, you know, by
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Twitter, I think I have a few
hundred followers.
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context of me.
Trying to build the right
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rapport with you know the right
investors through Twitter over
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time, it was much more kind of
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of, that kind of happened.
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that I actually reach out to on
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Twitter, whether it's, you know,
going into their DMS and just
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saying, hey this is, you know
what I mean?
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This is what I'm working on.
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their response, in this
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one investor That tweeted, you
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URL and kind of like a quick
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pitch and he'll comment on on,
you know, those posts to see if
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there's anybody that would be of
interest in his Network to make
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that interconnection in that
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we're closing our fundraise.
We have 200k left.
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What we're doing with our link
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literally within the matter.
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200k closed within Twitter.
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out that I basically never met
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funds or are Angel Investors and
what's quite interesting about
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this approach is that it's very
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I guess you can call it kind of
Syndicate, right?
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Where you know, somebody goes on
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a Syndicate for that business
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20 to 100 plus investors.
This is very similar where I
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basically had submitted, you
know, our business.
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linked our investor deck as well
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in that in that Twitter post.
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to 48 hours, we just saw a huge
Spike on docks and people
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checking out our deck and
interested in getting involved.
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The last thing I'll say is, we
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until that point.
So, I'm not saying that this is
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something that will work for
every every entrepreneur we
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closed, you know, a little over
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were closing in that kind of the
last little bit, a little bit of
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the fund raised prior to doing
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Hitters, both advisers and
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investors, that I think helped
helped some of those Angel
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Investors make that leap but
death you know all in all the
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Twitter response was incredible
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us to be able to close quickly.
Great that is Really cool more
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and more stories about how
people raise money on Twitter.
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I tried to wear myself multiple
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Just yeah, it did not work.
Out is not for everyone.
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Yeah.
Not yet.
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Not yet.
Not yet.
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We'll see.
We'll see how it goes on in the
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future.
Um but yeah let's let's talk
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about the reason why you're on
this podcast.
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The reason why you're here today
is because when my business
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developer mentioned the
investors that you raise money
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from I'm like alright I know
pretty much everyone in this
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round that sounds really
interesting.
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That is very rare, it does not
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Therefore it is an interesting
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So how do you manage to raise
money from so many well-known
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investors specifically in Los
Angeles?
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A great question.
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I think again I'm going to go
right back to something that one
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of our early advisors had
suggested we do and I think this
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is actually really good homework
for any entrepreneur out there
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that is looking to either go and
build their business or just
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start.
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one-pager of The high-end
advisors that you would love to
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be a part and or associated with
your company because it
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necessarily need to be specific
names.
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At first, it could just be like,
you know, somebody from X
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company, X being, maybe Snapchat
or Instagram, or if you're a
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consumer Focus, again, those
that's in our case.
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That's where my mind goes
through.
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But our advisors basically our
top here individuals from these
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markets, right?
So we have the CMO of It's or
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the ex CMO of Instagram.
We have one of the cofounders of
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Priceline.
If you're familiar with
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Skyscanner, we have one of those
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our advisor group.
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early in early entrepreneurs to
build out their advisor network
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with individuals, that can
really Propel their business.
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we the reason that we have some
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of the top-tier investors based
here in LA Specifically, you
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know, around La ecosystem is
because of those top-tier
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advisors that were able to get
us from.
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Really just the idea concept of
what we were doing to actual
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execution, and really a plan for
go to market.
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So, happy to unpack that, but
largely, I give a lot of our
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success of fundraising, to the
advisors themselves actually
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overwrite.
That is their true.
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That is one of the major
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not one of them.
Not going to say that.
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I'm taking those words back.
Okay, but it is one of the value
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as of advisors, and let's, let's
talk about visors a little bit,
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advisors is yet another subject
that is discussed, very
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frequently on this podcast.
So let's touch on say it again.
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You've said that, you know, we
have a lot of notable advisors,
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which is lovely, but the problem
with notable advisors is,
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they're very hard to get and
sometimes they are expensive as
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hell.
So how do you compensate them if
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you don't mind sharing, this
information.
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Are you going through just
giving out the stock best thing
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that's For certain amount of
time, giving them style, based
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on two actions or how do you
structure that?
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Yeah, it's a combination of
both, you know, I'd be more than
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happy to share just on this
podcast as well, kind of a
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context because I too, as a
fellow entrepreneur was, you
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know, Googling saying, you know,
what's the proper compensation
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to in investor or sorry?
An advisor in the early stage
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and what I like to say is that
anywhere between kind of a few
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percentage points, you know,
let's say 0 to 2 or, you know,
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in some cases facts, maybe,
Three percent in those very
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early days is not something
that's going to make or break
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your business.
The vesting cycle is actually
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what was probably going to be.
My next point is that you want
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to be able to actually lock in
that advisor not for the first
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three months, which will
probably get a lot of value out
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of but, you know, over the
course of two years.
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urge a lot of early
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entrepreneurs to go into that
route.
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Now, in our particular case, I
think we were in somewhere in
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between where, you know, we're
not giving up more than a Age /
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advisor, but it was much more in
the lines of what could they
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help us from the short-term and
long-term goals.
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And so that was a collaborative,
you know, situation you you're
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going to find yourself as an
entrepreneur reaching out to
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these advisors.
It's not going to be a
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one-and-done.
Hey, okay, great.
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You're interested in my
business.
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Great now, your advisor.
This is something that you're
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going to need to build over time
in terms of relationship and
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that will feel it should feel
mind you.
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It should feel collaborative
where you're actually coming up
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with those.
Medium and long-term goals with
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that advisor, for them to kind
of action on.
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And it could be everything from,
you know them, reaching out to
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their Network to helping make
introductions to strategizing
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and whiteboarding, right?
Like it could be all of the
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above but my my biggest
suggestion is in the early days
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of when you're trying to kind of
formulate who those who that
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advisor group is that you're
very deliberate about why.
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help you with getting to that
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next phase.
True.
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multiple times, and also
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mentioned that you locking the
advisor for not just the
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upcoming three months.
But for two years that is the
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struggle that I've seen
happening a lodge or with a lot
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of Founders, were they lock in
the advisor, they worked in the
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beginning for a couple months
and then they just drop off.
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They just do not show up, they
do not care.
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And what happens then what, how
do you how what's your advice on
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keeping the advisor?
Active basically, Great
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question.
So this is another reason that
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we did migrate towards a monthly
newsletter and so we have
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specific asks for advisors that
go out in that newsletter.
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And so it may in some cases, the
reason I bring that up and set
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in some months we may not
actually go and meet with every
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one of our advisors, but but I
know that they're still learning
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or reading our newsletter and
can still provide value.
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Even if that doesn't mean that
we've had a strategy session or
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you know, had walked through
some scenarios.
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Oreos with them.
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monthly newsletter really
actually does help our cause and
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kind of push the needle even if
there isn't much to be said
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throughout that month so I'll
give you the example.
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In our case we launched about
two months ago and within that
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month there was nothing
happening from an advisor
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standpoint, right?
We were heads down focused
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building and kind of launching
the product.
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Our advisors knew that because
we had sent out our newsletter
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and some of them actually had
asked what could they could be.
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Doing both on their socials, as
well as kind of promoting within
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their own network, once we
actually got there.
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And so keeping kind of an active
pulse, that's another benefit of
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having kind of a monthly
newsletter, rather than a
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three-month newsletter Right.
Yeah, that is very true and that
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is definitely good point towards
making more of those emails.
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Perfect.
Alright, now that we've covered
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all of that.
One more question about the
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fundraising that you just had
and that is the fact that is
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weird times.
It is not covid, but it is not
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not covid.
So it's like a weird mix of
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things.
So, in this semi covid type of
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times, how do you approach
meeting with Esters or
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communicating with investors.
Did you actually meet any of the
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investors that you raise money
from in person or did you fully
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see over Zoom even though their
most of them are in Los Angeles?
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So I'd say, I'll start with the
former questions or the latter
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question.
Sorry.
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The former question, when it,
when it comes to our current
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advisors, sorry, are current
investors that had just
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participated majority of them.
We've actually met in person.
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I'd say, I'd say 70%.
We met in person and 30%, we
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Either never met or in some
cases, they're either working
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remote or in different places
outside of the US that we just
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didn't actually reach out or
just haven't met yet.
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What I will say though and
specifically when it when it
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comes to fundraising during
covid, I think the biggest piece
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of advice that I wished that I
gave myself was that you
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basically have you you do need
to create boundaries and
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deadlines and I think it becomes
even more difficult to create.
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Lines in the midst of covid.
Regardless of if you're meeting
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up with individuals because
there's so much downtime that
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actually happens now that, you
know, you need to be pushing
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towards a deadline to get your
your fundraise closed, but you
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also don't need to.
You also can't give, you know, a
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deadline that's almost
unrealistic.
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And I've seen a lot of
entrepreneurs struggle with this
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idea, right?
They'll have a meeting on
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Monday.
It went really great and they're
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hoping to close by Friday.
I think Almost any successful
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entrepreneur that has been
through the process of
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fundraising knows that it's not
going to happen within that
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short amount of time.
And so you need to create those
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those expectations for yourself
and for your team, right?
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So if you're coming down to the
last two months, or three months
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of Runway, you should have
probably already had
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conversations with current
existing investors or new
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investors to kind of, you know,
get it, get up.
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Get basically, what's to come
and forward-looking or at least
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the plan there.
And so my biggest suggestion for
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those early stage entrepreneurs,
like myself is really create
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realistic, expectations, and try
to meet that right?
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Try to try to push investors
even if it is through Zoom or
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through email to commit whether
that's a yes or a no you're able
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to kind of move the needle a
little bit easier with deadlines
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hundred percent.
That is very true and of course
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deep inside every single sound
you're going to me with investor
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hopes that they will get a check
right there just from a A book.
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Everyone does that everyone
hopes for it but yeah, setting
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up more realistic goals,
definitely helps especially in
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long, run with your mental
health.
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So yeah definitely think of that
and definitely pushed investors
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to make the final decision
because the major thing that all
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investors do is being vague.
That's what they do.
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That's that's just that's,
that's the most common trait
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told investors have, but most
investors are, like, most
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investors have.
Well, the one thing I also So
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just wanted to touch on there is
a bird really, really press your
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own network for warm
introductions.
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You probably see this or at
least your audience will see
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this on every blog post, right?
It's like, how can you get a
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warm introduction to the top BC?
And the truth is those warm
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introductions will save you
headaches because you're you're
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not just trying to kind of get
into this Venture firm and kind
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of, you know, sell your company
or, you know, promote your
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company with warm introduction.
You're going to be able to jump
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on, you know, a call with a
managing partner within the next
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two or three days, right?
Again, if timing persists.
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But the idea is that you should
really leverage your own
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existing Network to try to get
you introduced to the network
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that you're trying to get
though.
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Right?
That is true and that works
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really well especially on early
stages studies for sure.
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So before we move on to the key
kind of concept of today's
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episode which is the fundraising
checklist, let's talk about
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leveraging that Network.
You've mentioned that you were
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working in the investment
banking for where six years, how
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do you leverage that network?
Was it at all helpful or because
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those people are Investment
Banking, which is not really
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related to the startup world or
Or to the traveling.
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Were they helpful at all or not?
Really.
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So that I will say they were
there's two there's two trains
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of thought here.
One is that they were definitely
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helpful my past experience was
definitely helpful from the
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understanding the financial
terms and what it really meant
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to go out and fundraise.
I think a lot of whether it's
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solo entrepreneurs or
entrepreneurs in general that
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don't come from the existing
background of investment
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banking, you know, Find
themselves Googling and figuring
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out what, you know, what a safer
convertible note is and what
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that, you know, what a debt
instrument is and things like
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that.
That a lot of the foundational
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work that I already had coming
from that experience worked in
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my benefit.
The second is the network,
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right?
And so, I think, early on what
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we realized is that we needed to
leverage our own existing
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Network to really build and
scale the company, our first
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investor was a former employee
of mine and so what?
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Yeah, well and a lot that Gave
us the, you know, the Charisma
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or you know kind of insert word,
right?
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To kind of go out and do our
dreams.
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When when I think you know we
didn't have friends and family
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to be able to go out and kind of
you know, ask if they can give
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us 25,000 or 50,000 dollar
checks that that was not the
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network that I was coming from.
I did have the network of, you
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know, past employees of these
things that could write us at 10
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or 15 thousand dollar check that
you know, was a huge Catalyst at
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that particular point.
And really was a game changer
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for us to go out and kind of
scale the company in the early
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days.
Nice, and you had that
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definitely helps therefore I
frequently recommend Founders
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who are very early on, just out
of college.
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I frequently give them the
advice of, you know, go for a 9
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to 5 job.
It can help only make your life
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easier down the road, just for
that reason.
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All right, now that we covered
that, let's go and talk about
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the fundraising checklist or pre
fundraising checklist.
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So would do What does a Founder
has to have before?
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Starting to fundraise?
Yeah.
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So there's a lot to unpack here.
I'd say there's kind of four
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main items that I wanted to kind
of touch on especially when it
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comes to the process of
fundraising.
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The first one is materials which
I can definitely jump into in
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terms of what you should
probably have in terms of, you
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know, about to fundraise or, you
know, sending out in terms of
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your actually fundraising the
second, which is email
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templates, which I actually
strongly Urge a lot of early
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early Founders to do, it's a
great exercise.
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Plus it allows them to kind of
create this back-and-forth
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conversation with an investor
prior to end actually having
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those conversations, the third,
which is the actual Outreach.
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So right, this is generating a
list of investors and you know
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kind of ranking them whether
it's top 10 or top 15 and then
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the fourth which is the process
which is kind of everything in
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between, right?
It's it's, you know, basically
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taking the materials taking, the
email templates creating kind of
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that Outreach strategy and then
actually implementing kind of a
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process to it.
But that fourth piece is
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actually the biggest piece
because many Founders you know
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can go out and create a pitch
deck in the materials and come
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up with the email templates and
you know kind of list out the
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different investment groups that
they're looking for but when it
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actually comes to doing the
process and reaching out to
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investors and you know, Having
those conversations and having
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the right right data points to
be able to describe, that's
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where a lot of Founders, kind of
fall flat is that they don't
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have that realistic timeline and
they don't, you know, come up
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with those expectations as
needed.
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And so, I'm happy to kind of
break down, you know, each one
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of them if you'd like, or go a
little bit more into the details
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of one or two of them, if that's
what you think is, it might be
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bester or interested in.
At this point I will do
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self-promotional plug-in because
we're doing the course on
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exactly that creating the
investor at least drafting those
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emails reaching out to using the
particular resources to find the
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emails of investors out of
mating this stuff and so on and
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so forth.
So my I have to put it there
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because I loved it it was just a
perfect situation.
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It was not planned people at
just occurred naturally.
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So go check out those groups in
this episode.
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I'll include our Lending.
A page there.
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So you can take a look at it.
The course is not available yet,
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but you can make a, the pre-sale
is available.
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So check it out.
But Alex with you, let's go and
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talk a little bit about creating
the investor at least.
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I think that's one of the most
important things to do there.
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There's one of the things that
Founders can start doing
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literally any time in their
career or any time in the
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creation of the company.
So let's talk about that.
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Tell us whatever you think is
the most important in the
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Investor at least creation
process.
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Perfect.
Yeah, so I'd say there's kind of
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two rules of thumb here.
One is that you should have at
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least a list of, you know, top
10 or top 15 funds or angels
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that you're really interested in
and then you should also have
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anywhere between 30 to 100 other
additional individuals.
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Whether it's Angels or funds
that you're interested in
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connecting with we touched on
this earlier throughout the
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podcast.
But I really think that having
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deliberate and tailed
descriptions of kind of who and
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why you're reaching out to them
as well as warm introductions.
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That that's really where you're
going to find.
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Probably the most early
successes coming up with that
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list.
And then kind of reaching out to
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your own existing Network and
saying, hey, you know, here's
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the top 15, here's the top 20.
Does anybody have no connections
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to these funds?
And then the second thing that
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I'll actually mention is more on
the technical items.
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So you should be able to reach
out specifically.
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And have tactical asks for those
let's say top 15 or top 30 and
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what I mean by tactical asks is
you should really, you shouldn't
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have you know a general email
template that you just send in
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hopes of them responding, you
know for example if it's a fun
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that's invested into another
consumer-focused app.
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Now I'm just, you know, I'm just
creating examples here for the
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time being you should have, you
know, detailed as to say, Hey,
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you know, I saw that you
invested in XY & Z come.
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Many were very similar or very
different because of X Y or Z.
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And you know, here's why I
wanted to kind of chat with you
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and give them kind of like a one
or two sentence around why you
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should exist and why you should
really be able to take that
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call.
It shouldn't just be like a hey,
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let me sell you my company right
off the bat and hopefully you
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responding.
I think a lot of early stage,
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Founders go directly to the ask
and not so much the why but
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really, really start with that
lie.
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And Come up with those tactical,
asks for those top 15 or 30
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investors, the last thing I'll
mention is where do you find
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this top 15 or top 30, you know,
invest investors or funds.
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The first thing that I would
strongly urge Founders to do is
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go on Google and type in their
favorite company and and say
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like, you know, Uber crunchbase
and then kind of back into the
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different funds that might have
invested in them prior.
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Now, mind you you're probably
early for a lot of these.
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Funds, you can start to get a
better understanding of what,
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you know what, and who gets
funded by where, right?
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And again, crunchbase is a
really great example for this.
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I'm sure you have a handful of
other kind of web sites or sites
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that you can kind of check out
to find those, you know, those
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early stage funds that that
really are interested in
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funding. 100%, I will agree with
you.
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I don't think people need to
reinvent the wheel and just
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stick to crunchbase.
It is objectively.
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The best platform out there for
this kind of stuff, especially
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if you're early on and not
really sure what kind of
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investors you're looking for.
Growing base is definitely the
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way to go pull us.
You can be easily get unlimited
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amount of free trials there.
So it is basically free.
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So do that, definitely great
advice here.
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On this note, we are going to
move to the last question of
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today's episode, which is a call
to action.
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So Alex, What do you want to
listen to do?
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As soon as the episode is over.
So there's two.
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There's two quick asks, one I
think from every Founders point
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of view, I'm not by any means
self promoting this.
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You should look into doc.
Send for, you know, sending your
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pitch deck, sending video links,
basically anything that you send
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to investors.
This is one of the biggest
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things that has helped our
fundraise in the past.
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The reason is, is you're able to
understand who's actually
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clicking into your, your Or
pitch decks, and kind of viewing
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at the at in, in real time.
And so, my strong asked to
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early-stage entrepreneurs is, if
you don't have doc cents, you
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know, spend the $10 a month, or
whatever it may be, and really
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get your pitch deck in there.
So that you're, you're, you're
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aware of who's checking out your
deck and you're able to press
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and get investors interest.
The second is more of like a
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selfless or selfish plugins, if
if you're ever interested in
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traveling, you know, Definitely
check us out or lewd dot C 0.
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So e, l UD e, Co and really
again the premises, you don't
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really know where you're going
to be going, your kind of
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spontaneously traveling.
But you know what, you're, you
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know, looking to spend.
That's that's kind of our plug
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there is, you know, being able
to search based off a budgeted
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see different places that you're
able to travel.
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So that's kind of my selfless,
my selfish plug but, you know,
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from that from the entrepreneur
and founder side, definitely
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check out doc said I represent
nearly selfless and yeah, for
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people who are actually
interested in Dogs ends, I just
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interviewed the founder of dogs.
And, and if you're curious to
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hear how they came up with a
product that became so essential
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to this dark world and
specifically to the fundraising
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process of it.
They came up with this Mansion
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ten dollar per month and how
they were doing, all this
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absolutely epic stuff and how
they eventually got to
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acquisition with Dropbox, I'll
include the link to that episode
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in the description of this
episode.
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So, check it out.
It out and just wrap it up in
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the description, you're going to
find Alex's LinkedIn.
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There's going to be a ludes,
there's going to be a link to
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the episode with the founder of
Dachshunds and there's gonna be
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a link to the course that
fundraising radio team is
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developing.
So if you're reaching out to
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people, I mean, whatever you're
doing pretty much.
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You absolutely have to take a
look at the description of the
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episode and as usually have a
good day.